Posts by Island Man

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Why are Battle Against Faith

by Jonathan Drake in

if any are willing, share your fact based reasons for viewing faith as dangerous.

viewing faith as dangerous is the reason for almost all of my posts recently.

what seems constant is that theists are too focused on there own little world to realize how and why faith is so damaging to society.

Island Man

Why battle against faith?

"By faith Abraham, when he was tested, as good as offered up Isaac, and the man that had gladly received the promises attempted to offer up [his] only-begotten [son]," - Hebrews 11:17

As the above text clearly shows, faith can be a very dangerous thing.

Religious people use faith to deny facts, logic, reason and even their basic built-in conscience. Isn't faith the underlying reason why JWs let themselves and their children die rather than accepting lifesaving blood transfusions? Isn't faith the underlying reason why a JW will fight his basic humanity by shunning his own flesh and blood over a changed religious opinion?

A world with religious zealots who value faith above what is demonstrably true and above the basic proddings of conscience, can be a very dangerous place! Even the bible unwittingly acknowledges this:

"In fact, the hour is coming when everyone that kills YOU will imagine he has rendered a sacred service to God" - John 16:2

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Disturbing hidden image in w15 04/15 page 9 (Not DF image)

by campaign of hate in

could someone do me a favor and post the picture on page 9 on the above mentioned watchtower.. i'll point it out, very surprised no one else has picked up on this creepy image..

Island Man

Of all the ills that can be pointed out about Watchtower literature, the whole subliminal images conspiracy woo is just scraping the bottom of the barrel. No, to be fair, it's worse than scraping the bottom of the barrel! It's delusional, pseudo-scientific, conspiracy-theorist, wack-job, lunacy!

For the umpteenth time, it's nothing but pareidolia, people! Stop fitting yourself into Watchtower's stereotype of "mentally diseased"!

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What was your eye opening moment?

by WasOnceBlind in

if you had to pinpoint the time or experience that finally made you open your eyes, what would it be?.

i think for me it was the time i saw my dad shun his brother who he had not seen in decades just because he was a da'ed jw.

i thought to my self "no way jesus would do that.

Island Man

OneEyedJoe :The misquotes in the creation book was the moment where everything flipped upside down for me

Same here.

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2015 Regional Convention Anthony Morris Governing Body encourages coerced baptism of unwilling children ...again

by Watchtower-Free in

this is from the last talk of the convention ......... clip 1:30 minutes longhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrej8tlyiso&feature=youtu.be.

Island Man

"You are ready for your drivers license, but you're not ready to dedicate your life... hmm explain that to heaven"

Watchtower discourages young adolescent JWs from marrying, saying they're likely not mature enough for such an important commitment. But they want children to enter into the most important commitment of their lives by getting baptized? Explain that to heaven, AM III, you shameless hypocrite!

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After 2 years my parents make contact. The end result is that I promise them to cryogenically preserve ONLY their heads

by paulmolark in

it has been 2 and a half years since my departure from the religion.

i was told by my parents from the start that i would never speak to them until i returned to jehovah dog.

a few months later they told people they hoped i died before the end came, then all of this culminating in them telling my inactive / fading sister that they don't consider me a child anymore and they have given me up to satan.

Island Man

I just had an idea:

What would it be like for a JW parent who has shunned their child for years, if when they call their JW child one day many years later and the ex-JW child pretended not to remember the parent or his former life as a JW?

"Who do you say you are? I'm sorry, I don't remember you. I have completely lost my memory of my past. The doctors say I must have experienced some great unbearable psychological trauma and my brain's way of dealing with it is shutting out my memory of everything from that point back."

If an ex-JW can pull this off and do a really good job of pretending not to remember them, surely that should cause the JWs to think of the great harm they have done to their child by following Watchtower's cruel shunning policy.

Also, how could a JW shun his child when the child isn't aware of why he's being shunned or what sins he committed and needs to repent of? How could they expect someone to show genuine repentance for something they don't recall doing? How do they wrap their conscience around that? lol

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After 2 years my parents make contact. The end result is that I promise them to cryogenically preserve ONLY their heads

by paulmolark in

it has been 2 and a half years since my departure from the religion.

i was told by my parents from the start that i would never speak to them until i returned to jehovah dog.

a few months later they told people they hoped i died before the end came, then all of this culminating in them telling my inactive / fading sister that they don't consider me a child anymore and they have given me up to satan.

Island Man

This would have been my response:

"Hello? Who is this? Do I know you? I think you must have the wrong number. You speak as if you believe you're my mother, but you can't be since my mother died 2 and a half years ago - she was brainwashed to death by a manipulative, divisive, family-destroying cult that worships an organization. Please do not insult the memory of my mother by pretending to be her - you're a cult fanatic and nothing remotely resembling what a true mother is supposed to be. Please do not call me again or I will lodge a stalking/harassment complaint with the police!"

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2015 Convention

by wifibandit in

pixel, cappytan, and wifibandit present for your consideration:.

https://youtu.be/g16_p3tncxq?list=plrw9u-n1z2m-_z5_a55vmqj1biuwnslhq.

the saturday program will be added tomorrow, followed by the sunday program the next day..

Island Man

marked.

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The Reason Why Jehovah's Witnesses Will Never Prosper Is The Children

by minimus in

jw
friends

i believe that the religion will remain stagnant due to their achilles heel, the kids, the children, that next generation.. most of them really don't wa t to be in the religion.

the parents may have tried everything within their power to make the kids love jehovah but we all know you can't force someone to love you and you can't make a grown person stay in a relationship or situation if they really don't want to be there..

Island Man

As low as the retention rate for born-ins is, the fact remains that raising JWs from the cradle is potentially a greater and easier source of growth that trying to convert non-JWs, and I think the reason for the low retention rate of born ins is simply due to the fact that JW parents traditionally tend to focus more on converting non-JWs while taking their JW children somewhat for granted. If Watchtower puts the same amount of emphasis on indoctrinating JW children as they do in trying to convert non-JWs, including instituting new programs similar to what I've mentioned, I guarantee you they will have higher growth rates.

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The Reason Why Jehovah's Witnesses Will Never Prosper Is The Children

by minimus in

jw
friends

i believe that the religion will remain stagnant due to their achilles heel, the kids, the children, that next generation.. most of them really don't wa t to be in the religion.

the parents may have tried everything within their power to make the kids love jehovah but we all know you can't force someone to love you and you can't make a grown person stay in a relationship or situation if they really don't want to be there..

Island Man

I think another possible measure that Watchtower may come up with is encouraging homeschooling and discouraging parents from sending their children to "worldly" schools. They may even produce the Watchtower approved text books and videos that parents can use.

The reason I think they may do this is that children are exposed to ideas and influences contrary to JW programming, at "worldly" schools. Watchtower can even earn $ome with such a program by stipulating parents give a suggest donation for text books and other Watchtower approved teaching material. They'll spin as being just to cover the costs and say its cheaper than the regular "worldly" school books.

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The Reason Why Jehovah's Witnesses Will Never Prosper Is The Children

by minimus in

jw
friends

i believe that the religion will remain stagnant due to their achilles heel, the kids, the children, that next generation.. most of them really don't wa t to be in the religion.

the parents may have tried everything within their power to make the kids love jehovah but we all know you can't force someone to love you and you can't make a grown person stay in a relationship or situation if they really don't want to be there..

Island Man

I think that's the reason why jw.org is putting so much effort into churning out propaganda for kids. Don't be surprised if they soon come out with a special new arrangement for kids that mirrors "Christendom's" Sunday School. With JW broadcasting it wouldn't be difficult at all. They can have all the kids come to the kingdom halls on a saturday morning for a special "Sunday School" jw broadcast video while the parents are out in field serve us.